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General Discussion / Re: Release notes old. Minimum reqs not listed. and more
« on: September 04, 2014, 10:05:55 AM »If you read the information about the partition layout, and all the features about quick-restore, you would realize that this is not a "normal" Linux distribution. You obviously have a lot of experience with Linux, and certain expectations on how it should work that are simply not true about Ubermix.
The quick-restore feature is in my opinion the main feature of Ubermix, and it is the feature that makes Ubermix require a custom install procedure, and makes it impossible to test as a Live CD.
Fair enough, although I don't see exactly why. I guess maybe because a new installer would have to be made to get around the way it works and that is a lot more real coding than putting together a distro! But if the Restore partition was a disk image, then it could very easily be imaged from a Live USB just as much as any OS could be as far as I can tell, but from what I've read you've gone more down the keeping a log of changes and reverting route... But even then it should be fairly trivial, at the Live USB stage there are no reversions steps that need to be changed! (I'm not talking about having any kind of Persistence or anything.) I've noticed the F5 option lets you create a new USB install key from the current system though. I like that.
Also agree the quick restore is very important. That plus the inclusion of some things that go against the Ubuntu philosophy and thus will never be included as standard is why I decided to try this rather than Edubuntu.QuoteI'd recommend using VirtualBox or other virtualization software to test it out.
Well as it took three days to download the .img downloading the version for VB as well really wasn't an option! I was just looking at ways to get img converted to a format VirtualBox will open when we lost power the other day, then no internet at all yesterday and most of today. Almost through my emails and things now and really it's past my bedtime!! I also leave here for about three weeks tomorrow morning... But I will look into VMing it (and if you can link a useful guide for working with the img file it would be appreciated.)
Bad news: (note I went for v1.4 in the end)
I installed it on my first PC, a Dell Latitude E6400, a fair bit faster than the machines I mentioned but it was in Polish and locked out with nobody aware of the password so seemed a good candidate.
First problem: Wireless doesn't work! This means that I can't run any updates etc. No access to the router via Ethernet! (There are some messages at Boot but I've been too bleary-eyed to read them fully tonight.)
If I run the Simple Updates then almost all of the Help file seems incorrect! There is no Launcher! There is no Dash where described! I couldn't even find a way to launch Terminal at all (not even Alt+F2), only way to get command line was going to a different TTY.
Reinstalled without the Simple Updates and at least I can get to Terminal through Accessories now... Only confirmed I have no wireless and this no network. Double-checked all BIOS settings and tried hardware switch in both positions.
Also: Am I blind or is there no GCompris included? This is a package I have just installed on all the Windows PCs for a bit of play time after more serious lessons, seemed quite popular for teaching (although UberMix is targeted at slightly older I thought covered the whole range.) If I had wifi I would definitely add this and reimage (probably after removing FreeCiv, which is FAR to large and wouldn't be appreciated at all out here I think, and possibly other bits...)
I will probably try and download v2.x at some point too, so I have options if I do more work where people are open to my suggestions. V2.x for 2GB and up, anything below v1.x?? Or would you even go with v2.x on a 1GB machine? Seems a bit close to the minimum really required...